Interesting side note: Darin and I were roadies for Surrender and talked about starting our own band! I placed an ad in the Recycler for a vocalist and drummer and that's how Larry and Gary came into the band! We decided on the name Reaction for the band! I decided to quit after a year together and that's when Rod took over as bassist! I have a couple live videos of us on VHS of course and a couple Audio tapes I reco during band practice! Great bunch of bruthas and I'll always love 'em!