Don McLean - No Irish Need Apply / Johnny McEldoo video free download

oceanridge47

If it is at all possible, could you upload Don singing Molly Malone, from the same concert. I would beso happy to see it.Many thanks

Jane Ryan-Douglas

+mooninquirerPlease don't pretend to speak with any authority on the subject of discrimination of Irish immigrants in early America. You've apparently bought that entire story that college professor from Minnesota was selling several years back. There's no way in hell that he, or you, or anyone else could know for a fact that NO SIGNS saying Irish Need Not Apply (etc) ever existed. The fact that he says he couldn't find a picture of one means just that; that he couldn't find a picture of one It does not mean that they couldn't possibly have been real. He repeatedly talked about looking for a photograph of one of these signs in a store window so that he could prove they were used, but think about it, why would anyone take such a photograph in the first place? Big businesses would not have had huge, loud signs advertising their dislike of any nationality, even the lowly Irish, as doing so would almost certainly cause them to lose some customers. Small businesses, however, who generally hired people for short-term, low-level employment, by sticking a homemade sign in a window would not have the same concerns. There are enough reference to such signs in contemporary newspaper articles and literature that their existence, however big or small, would seem very, very likely. In Catholic newspapers of their day, editorials were written criticizing the business owners who did advertise their discrimination of Irish immigrants with signs and asking these businesses to reconsider their stand on this issue. If no such signs existed, why would editorials which described their use and railed against them even be published?The professor also claimed he spent much time exhaustively searching for evidence of similarly discriminatory words within 19th century job advertisements but found only a tiny number, yet after reading his original article, I searched google for maybe and hour and a half, and I found eight or nine such advertisements myself. Unlike him, I did not restrict myself to the archives of the New York Times, whose search engine BTW is not all that reliable. I found evidence in all sorts of places, including books and old magazine articles. A Massachusetts man whose mill was burned down went on record as saying that his business might have been targeted because of the NO IRISH NEED APPLY signs which were plastered to the mill's walls. Even in the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY, an old 19th Century ad from the Brooklyn Eagle which advertised for baseball players, specifically excluding Irishmen, is on display. I also know from my great, great grandfather's diary (a man who was not Irish, by the way) that these signs were appearing in some store windows in New York City. Why would a man write in his personal diary about seeing such signs if they were not even real? Was it an evil plan of his to make America look racist more than a century after his own death? The problem with people like that man who claims Irish discrimination was a myth, and with those people who assume his ideas should, for some unknown reason, be accepted as gospel truth, is that they use bad information to draw conclusions, and in the end that only casts doubt on whatever actual truth might exist within their work. Had he said that his research "suggests that the subject has been greatly exaggerated" over the years, it'd be hard to dispute his claims. But any educated person knows, or at least ought to know, that claims for which no truly reliable evidence has been presented should never be accepted as fact. Saying, "I couldn't find enough evidence, therefore it can't be true," is very bad science, especially for an academic.

byng785

Don's rendition of Johhny Macadoo is almost as good as John Tabb's

Brendan O'Neill

@mooniquirer. Were you around in the 1850 and 60s to know this wasn't widespread. Do you believe the Irish were not marginalized when they first came to America? Are you another English apologist? Please tell. 

machacho belfast

I'm an Irishman from falls road beal feirste TAL

malachy1847

Breaking those chains oppression Changes the game for all, the American Civil Right movement fed into other struggles across the Globe....and we in Ireland used those self same songs and tactics and faced down the forces of the State... Be it Birmingham Alabama...or the Bogside in Derry... it was the same struggle indeed ...'We Shall overcome'

PrincessWarsop

How were our great-grandparents supposed to feed their families?

Boulberhane

The one person that disliked this is a bitch.

שי פרלה

thats the way to sing.

sainglain

On a window in London of a bed and breakfast house "No Irish and No Blacks" we don't forget!

Danny Higgons

People love drama ... Struggle!? ... Welcome to life as a human.

Danny Higgons

Struggle ... : )

MadTomOfBedlam

@mooninquirer if someone were to deny you a job because they hated "your kind" what does it matter whether there is a law that says they have to? the irish and blacks have most definitely been discriminated against, as is any race that will or has to work for cheap yet both deserve the unalienable rights they were denied. to posit that the civil rights movement should have consisted of any one color is the same as positing ____ supremacy, because it implies that only one group faces oppression

MadTomOfBedlam

@mooninquirer the civil rights movement is entirely based in the civil rights of All people in america, and to say that the movement should only be for blacks is exactly the same as saying that the back of the bus should only be for blacks, the civil rights movement is in existence to secure the same treatment for everyone who is descrimnated against, whether it be blacks in NY or whites in NM. what does it matter whether the racism is written into law?

MadTomOfBedlam

@mooninquirer if there were no signs that said no irish need apply how do explain all the pictures in say, history books? in fact, i have a book in my room right now "no irish need apply) which on the cover has a picture of such a sign bearing the words "no irish, niggers, jews or alligators need apply" that the irish were not descriminated against largely in america is one of the more ridiculous contentions i have heard. perhaps you should read before writing. your ignorance is sad and annoying

mooninquirer

There were an extremely small number of jobs were the employer specifically did not want Irish, and these were for personal assistants, especially live-in domestic servants and nannies, and even then, it was from Americans who had come from Britain. It is a myth that these ads were widespread, and there were NO signs saying "No Irish Need Apply." Originally, this song referred to a WOMAN who faced this discrimination, in England.

mooninquirer

Employers were VERY eager to hire the Irish en masse for jobs in construction, railroads, mining, etc., in the same way that employers are very eager to hire the MEXICANS of today. The problem was not the "No Irish Need Apply" myth, but low wages and poor working conditions. The resentment they faced was NOT from employers, but from other workers, just like there is so much resentment today for Mexicans, because they "are taking the White man's jobs."

mooninquirer

@jerry0142 The thing is, you not only believe that "No Irish Need Apply" ads were common ( for Blacks in the South, it was a criminal offense for which the police could be immediately called, if anyone failed to segregate Blacks and Whites, and there was nothing at all like that in America for the Irish ), you ALSO agree with the behavior of the Irishman in this song. You don't realize that THIS SONG actually is a very great discredit to the Irish ---- like gangsta rap is to Black males.

whipthenations

@fitzemmett075 yeah, the Irish have a pale skin tone so this guy thinks they could not have been persecuted that bad, he does not understand that it isn't a competition on who has had the most 'victimization'. It is not a competition, it is disrespectful to all peoples to treat it in that manner. The rest of europe has been shitting on the the Irish for 1000 years, but they are white so i guess it makes this fact null and void

mooninquirer

@TYBAKERVLOG Why do you respect the Irish struggle ? It is sucking off and very severely diluting the REAL victimization of Blacks in America, not just with slavery, but with the Jim Crow laws and culture surrounding them. Blacks and Native Americans properly have a story of victimization and something to bitch and moan about. The Civil Rights struggle SHOULD HAVE been surgically targeted only to correct the Jim Crow laws, and not an excuse to have every group fighting each other.

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