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Goscalyon Gos

That reminds me of Monthy Python =D

ZakkLamm

@Mestrerui44 Honk? Honk. Honk. MOTHERFUCKING HONK.

Mestrerui44

" the meaning of life is to give life meaning" . . . HOOOONK!

Elcano

@TheSweatyfatguy I'm not so sure about that...

Kile Kiley

@95TurboSol holy shit youre really smart hahaha

95TurboSol

Because it's made up in ones mind, not mind independent. Meaning in an objective sense presupposes intention, which is the property of a mind. If what exists is not untimately created and grounded by a mind in some way then objective meaning I think is impossibe. That doesn't mean someone couldn't deside to make the purpose of their life to bring honor to their family but it would be purely subjective in their mind not really the meaning of their existence in the objective sense. -Matt

Kile Kiley

@95TurboSol how is winning the super bowl and making millions an illusion? that can create a great life and a lot can be done with that money. it can even bring honor to your family, which is something worth living for, is it not? people used to want to die for honor, something that you dont see very much now days in America

AvocadoRogue

@95TurboSol I agree with your assessment, but I think that you are mincing terms. :P The meaning of the statement "The meaning of life is to give life meaning" is probably just a catchier, poetic equivalent to "life has no meaning but what one gives it, and is good or better once given meaning."

DIABLOVT12

This song is AMAZING! Ayreon's f**king epic!

95TurboSol

@YetiBrothers Well I think they could, but it would just be a subjective illusion, not really the meaning of their life. Someone could have the meaning of their life to win the super bowl and retire a millionaire, but that would not really be the meaning of their existence, it's just a subjective illusion. We ultimately run into big questions of God and the reality of "reality" here. I wasn't trying to get into all of that though, I was just pointing out the self defeating proposition. -Matt

Craig Vilbig

@95TurboSol Life is different for each person, so why can't each person have a different meaning to life?

95TurboSol

Ah I see. Well it seems to me that if the meaning to life is to give it meaning then that is not really the meaning of life since it depends on me to define it. So the meaning is to make meaning yet I define that very meaning, but there was mysteriously meaning before I gave it meaning, which is self defeating lol, See what I'm saying? What they should say instead is that there is no objective meaning to life, we are just to create meaning in life for ourselves. But that wouldn't be poetic :P

Craig Vilbig

@95TurboSol I get what you are saying, but it's not necessarily self-defeating. No where does it say that life gives itself purpose. Instead it says that what it means to be alive is to go find your own reason and be different; to give a second meaning to life. (At least that's how I interpret the lyric.)

95TurboSol

@YetiBrothers It's actually a self defeating proposition, as railfun pointed out.

Craig Vilbig

@95TurboSol No, circular reasoning is a logical fallacy where something is proven by itself. This is just plain brilliant.

95TurboSol

@railfun Very astute! I should have used self contradictory or self defeating, good catch :P

railfun

@95TurboSol No, it doesn't refer to itself to prove itself, but it is self-defeating! If there is a purpose to life (giving life purpose) then there is need for us to give it.

MrPhilionaire

I think OP cut this song off right before the epic synth solo on purpose. douchebag =]

95TurboSol

@YetiBrothers That's circular reasoning! -Matt

Alex0014100

The man who made this music is a musical genious.

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